National Points Race

National Points Race

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by Logan Scisco

The Extemp Central National Points Race is a competition designed to reward extempers for placing high at selected national circuit competitions throughout the year.  Tournaments are placed into five tiers based on their level of prestige and each tier awards a different amount of points towards elimination round participants.  To find out what point value tournaments are worth, click here.  At the end of the season, the winner of the National Points Race receives a customary glass trophy recognizing their achievement courtesy of Extemp Central.

Even though the National Catholic Forensic League (NCFL) Grand National Tournament and Extemp TOC offered lots of points attendance by highly ranked extempers in this year’s National Points Race was poor.  As a result, the updated standings have not changed much since the end of the regular season.  Sruti Peddi of BASIS Scottsdale (AZ) remains in the driver’s seat, leading Brandon Cheng of Flintridge Preparatory School (CA) by 106 points with one tournament remaining.

Amy Cao of Ridge High School (NJ) won her third National Points Race tournament of the season – and first major championship – at NCFL Nationals.  That moved her back into the top five.  Cao led the National Points Race to start the season and could still theoretically win the competition with a strong performance at the National Speech and Debate Association (NSDA) National Tournament in two weeks.

Sasha Morel of Plano West Senior High School (TX) won the Extemp TOC, netting 100 points.  Morel breaks into the rankings for the first time this year in twenty-first place.

Taylor Burris of the Potomac School (VA) was the only extemper who reached the final round of NCFL Nationals and the Extemp TOC.  Burris took third at NCFL and sixth at the TOC, enabling her to jump eight spots from twelfth to fourth in the new rankings.

Siri Ural of Shrewsbury High School (MA) also moves into the top ten after reaching semi-finals at NCFL.

New extempers in the top 25 include NCFL finalists Noah Darby of St. Thomas More Catholic High School (LA) and Max Smith of Ronald Reagan High School (WI), Extemp TOC runner-up Kajal Parmar of Cary Academy (NC), and NCFL semi-finalist Claire Han of Munster High School (IN).

Up to 300 points will be available at the NSDA National Tournament in Des Moines, Iowa.  International Extemp has 15 of the top 25 competitors – including nine of the top ten (Peddi is in USX) – whereas United States Extemp has 7.  This means that International Extemp will receive the 50 points point and its winner will receive 250 points for winning the tournament and the final round winner of the event will receive 50 points.  Any competitor who is in International Extemp that has 124 points or more in the National Points Race is still alive to win this year’s title.  If a competitor is in United States Extemp they need to have at least 184 points to be viable.

Here are the standings of the 2023-2024 National Points Race after the Extemp TOC and the National Catholic Forensic League Grand National Tournament:

RANK NAME SCHOOL POINTS
1 Sruti Peddi BASIS Scottsdale (Scottsdale, AZ) 424
2 Brandon Cheng Flintridge Preparatory School (Flintridge, CA) 318
3 Waleed Haider Hendrickson HS (Pflugerville, TX) 305
4 Taylor Burris The Potomac School (McLean, VA) 296
5 Amy Cao Ridge HS (Somerset County, NJ) 260
6 Robert Zhang Elkins HS (Missouri City, TX) 251
7 Charlotte Reitman NSU University School (Fort Lauderdale, FL) 217
8 April Zhang Neuqua Valley HS (Naperville, IL) 210
9 Lishore Kumar Tomball Memorial HS (Harris County, TX) 193
10 Siri Ural Shrewsbury HS (Shrewsbury, MA) 183
11 Abhijay Rana Bellarmine College Preparatory (San Jose, CA) 180
12 Evelyn Tsoi Velasquez Academy (Los Angeles, CA) 171
13 Katherine Lee Plano West Senior HS (Plano, TX) 170
14 Tyler Crivella Seven Lakes HS (Katy, TX) 170
15 Kate Liu Plano East Senior HS (Plano, TX) 149
16 Ellie Sohn Flintridge Preparatory School (Flintridge, CA) 145
17 Rohit Vakkalagadda Bellarmine College Preparatory (San Jose, CA) 145
18 Noah Darby St. Thomas More Catholic HS (Lafayette, LA) 135
19 Austin Bauman Bellarmine College Preparatory (San Jose, CA) 133
20 Skyler Burrus American Heritage School-Palm Beach (Delray Beach, FL) 131
21 Sasha Morel Plano Senior HS (Plano, TX) 125
22 Max Smith Ronald Reagan HS (Milwaukee, WI) 120
23 Nick Pienkos Marquette University HS (Marquette, WI) 116
24 Kajal Parmar Cary Academy (Cary, NC) 108
25 Claire Han Munster HS (Munster, IN) 91

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2023-2024 National Points Race Tournaments w/Tier, Points Awarded to the Winner, and Champion

National Speech and Debate Season Opener Hosted by UK (5th Tier, 40 pts.):
Amy Cao (Ridge High School, New Jersey)
Yale University Invitational (4th Tier, 70 pts.):
Amy Cao (Ridge High School, New Jersey)
New York City Invitational (5th Tier, 40 pts.):
Eshaal Ubaid (Stuyvesant High School, New York)
The Florida Blue Key (5th Tier, 40 pts.):
Charlotte Reitman (NSU University School, Florida)
The Glenbrooks (3rd Tier, 100 pts.):
Lishore Kumar (Tomball Memorial High School, Texas)
George Mason University Patriot Games (5th Tier, 40 pts.):
Siri Ural (Shrewsbury High School, Massachusetts)
University of Texas-Longhorn Classic (3rd Tier, 100 pts.):
Katherine Lee (Plano West Senior High School, Texas) & Waleed Haider (Hendrickson High School, Texas)
Montgomery Bell Academy Extemp Round Robin (2nd Tier, 150 pts.):
April Zhang (Neuqua Valley High School, Illinois)
James Logan MLK Invitational (4th Tier, 70 pts.):
Abhijay Rana (Bellarmine College Preparatory, California) & Evelyn Tsoi (Velasquez Academy, California)
The Barkley Forum (4th Tier, 70 pts.):
Katherine Lee (Plano West Senior High School, Texas)
The Apple Valley Minneapple (5th Tier, 40 pts.):
Eunsol Lee (Woodbury High School, Minnesota) & Nick Zylstra (Eastview High School, Minnesota)
The Stanford Invitational (5th Tier, 40 pts.):
Brandon Cheng (Flintridge Preparatory School, California) & Matthew Abrams (George Washington High School, Colorado)
Harvard National High School Invitational (2nd Tier, 150 pts.):
Sruti Peddi (BASIS Scottsdale, Arizona)
The California Invitational (3rd Tier, 100 pts.):
Austin Bauman (Bellarmine College Preparatory, California)
University of Kentucky Tournament of Champions (3rd Tier, 100 pts.):
Charlotte Reitman (NSU University School, Florida)
The Extemp Tournament of Champions (3rd Tier, 100 pts.):
Sasha Morel (Plano West Senior High School, Texas)
Catholic Forensic League Grand National Tournament (2nd Tier, 150 pts.):
Amy Cao (Ridge High School, New Jersey)
National Speech and Debate Association National Tournament–International Extemp (1st Tier, 200/250 pts.):
National Speech and Debate Association National Tournament–United States Extemp (1st Tier, 200/250 pts.):
National Speech and Debate Association National Tournament International Extemp Final Round Winner (1st Tier, 40/50 pts.):
National Speech and Debate Association National Tournament U.S. Extemp Final Round Winner (1st Tier, 40/50 pts.):


2022-2023 National Points Race Final Standings

Spreadsheet of Final Individual Standings

2021-2022 National Points Race Final Standings

Spreadsheet of Final Individual Standings

2015-2016 National Points Race Final Standings

Spreadsheet of Final Individual Standings

2014-2015 National Points Race Final Standings

Spreadsheet of Final Individual Standings

2011-2012 National Points Race Final Standings

Spreadsheet of Final Individual Standings
Spreadsheet of Final Team Standings

2010-2011 National Points Race Final Standings:

Spreadsheet of Final Individual Standings
Spreadsheet of Final Team Standings

2009-2010 National Points Race Final Standings:

Spreadsheet of Final Individual Standings
Spreadsheet of Final Team Standings

2008-2009 National Points Race Final Standings:

Spreadsheet of Final Individual Standings
Spreadsheet of Final Team Standings

15 Comments

  1. Theodore Gercken

    I just wanted to let you know the Stanford Tournament has not been canceled. It’s been renamed the Palm Classic and is inheriting its TOC, ETOC, and NIETOC bids. As such, is there a reason it’s not inheriting its points race points?

  2. We weren’t aware of the change! We will make sure to make this change, so the tournament will be added into the National Points Race this week!

  3. Dev

    Hi Logan, is there a reason the UPenn tournament, with 75 entries, is not included in the points race?

  4. For a long time UPenn ran opposite of Harvard and its field was relatively weak. It was part of the first National Points Race but was removed when the tournament started going the same weekend as Harvard/Cal and the quality of its field became too poor to warrant points. Another reason is that the National Points Race is pretty heavy on East Coast tournaments already. For the sake of expansion, we’d also prefer adding events in the Midwest or West Coast. However, after each season the National Points Race undergoes some changes/revisions based on the results in 3 year cycles for tournaments, which can alter tiers or remove some tournaments entirely. So UPenn will get some consideration when that reevaluation is done in the offseason along with other tournaments like the NIETOC and such.

  5. Brandon

    Hi there,

    I wonder why points are not awarded to the 7th-place finisher in tournaments whose final rounds include seven participants. The information blurb for Tier 5 tournaments states the following:

    Fifth tier tournaments are make-or-break affairs. Only those extempers who reach the final round will receive points.

    If “extempers who reach the final round will receive points,” I think it is only fair that students who reach said round but place seventh should be awarded a commensurate number of points at tournaments that allow seven competitors to advance to finals, such as James Logan in California. Thank you for your consideration!

  6. Hi Brandon, this is because if you look at the National Points Race calculations, points are only awarded for the top six. If tournaments opt to let seven or eight competitors into finals, that is their decision but to standardize how points are awarded across tournaments we will only award finalist points for the top six. This is because nearly every circuit tournament in the country only breaks to a final round of six competitors.

  7. Hi –

    Thanks for running such a detailed and thorough website!

    I was wondering if you plan on including Villiger and Princeton in the national points race next year.

    This year, Villiger received 54 entries. That was more than the Season Opener, the NYC Invitational, and about the same as GMU.

    Princeton received 87 entries. That was more all the tournaments listed above, as well as Blue Key. It was about the same as the Longhorn Classic.

    I am asking because both Villiger and Princeton are cheaper for me to attend (than the alternatives, Glenbrooks and GMU), but I would consider the others if points race calculations stay the same as I plan out my travel for next year.

    Thank you so much!

  8. Thanks for the question. While I always consider adding tournaments, I probably will not add Villiger and probably not for Princeton. Both are good tournaments for sure and have good histories but a big reason not to include them is that the Northeast already has three National Points Race tournaments (Yale, NYC, and Harvard). Putting more there starts to imbalance things geographically, moreso because Yale and Harvard are fourth and second tier contests. Also, when tournaments are held sort of matters too as NYC happens earlier in October but Princeton’s weekend also has GMU and the Longhorn Classic. I like to have a spread of tournaments in the calculations rather than firing off tons of them in a given weekend.

    At the end of the year, I’ll look over tab sheets and evaluate. There could be a case for doing something with Princeton, and it is something that has been considered, but it would also require finding some other balance of tournaments for the Midwest, West Coast, and South.

  9. Thank you so much for the detailed and thorough response!

  10. Robert Zhang

    Hi there!

    I just noticed that Sunvite used to be a tier-4 tournament, but was dropped from the NPR due to running it against MBA. However, as it is once again the week after MBA, will it be returned to the NPR? I did not personally attend, but I did notice that the field had expanded from last year and will likely grow in future years.
    Thank you for your time!

    Best,
    Robert Zhang

  11. Hi Robert,

    I’m not sure if I’ll put Sunvitational back on for the time being since there’s already a wider regional tournament in January with the Barkley Forum. It’s also a big of a crapshoot if its date will continue to mess with MBA so that makes it a bit tricky. I go back and “audit” tournaments at the end of the year and try to think of new inclusions, shifts, etc. so it’ll be considered.

  12. Abhijay Rana

    This is pretty minor, but as someone from Naperville – #6 April Zhang’s high school is located in Naperville, IL, not Napierville.

  13. Thanks for the correction. Our next update will reflect the change.

  14. Paul Robinson

    Hello,
    Is there a reason that Texas, despite having famously strong competition, only has UT on the national points race? I have recently noticed that almost every region strong in extemp has at least two NPR tournaments (Berkeley and MLK are both in California; Yale, Harvard, and Bronx are in the Northeast; Emory and Blue Key serve competitors in the Southwest; extempers in the Midwest don’t have to travel far to Glenbrooks or Apple Valley). Is there any chance that you would add another Texas tournament to the rankings, since just having the Longhorn Classic seems to not represent Texas equitably?

  15. Not at the present time. Texas attends the other tournaments reasonably well by our standards and performs well in our tournaments rankings each year on the basis of that, which has not warranted adding another one. The reason California has three is because there is a dearth of West Coast tournaments. St. Mark’s used to be included as a fifth tier event but fell off the radar screen for national competition. Longhorn was upgraded to a third tier event this year to reflect strong competition. We obviously welcome feedback but any addition of another Texas tournament would need to include competitors who attend from surrounding states and multiple Texas regions instead of just one. St. Mark’s used to do that, which is why it was included.

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